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		<title>By: kosmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about the upgrades.  I&#039;m thinking that everything with a 603e or older processor was  officially incapable of running OS X, but I might be wrong about that.

Some of the Macs back then were fairly upgradeable.  I think some had ZIF sockets to allow processors upgrades, although the bus might have imposed limitations.  Again, pulling this back from memory.

The lower end machines weren&#039;t particularly upgradeable, though.  I had a 6500 that wasn&#039;t technically processor upgradeable, but I had a card that slipped into the level 2 cache slot (equivalent of &quot;pipeline burst cache&quot; on intel machine, I think) to make the 225mhz 603e behave like a 300 mhz G3.  Not sure if that was so that I could run OS X or something else.

One cool thing, though, was that you could go to Apple&#039;s website and immediately see if your computer was officially supported for OS X or not.  No tap dance between OS vendor and hardware vendor.

OS 9 to OS X was a pretty sizable technical jump - the entire basic infrastructure was completely replaced.

Ah, good memories ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about the upgrades.  I&#8217;m thinking that everything with a 603e or older processor was  officially incapable of running OS X, but I might be wrong about that.</p>
<p>Some of the Macs back then were fairly upgradeable.  I think some had ZIF sockets to allow processors upgrades, although the bus might have imposed limitations.  Again, pulling this back from memory.</p>
<p>The lower end machines weren&#8217;t particularly upgradeable, though.  I had a 6500 that wasn&#8217;t technically processor upgradeable, but I had a card that slipped into the level 2 cache slot (equivalent of &#8220;pipeline burst cache&#8221; on intel machine, I think) to make the 225mhz 603e behave like a 300 mhz G3.  Not sure if that was so that I could run OS X or something else.</p>
<p>One cool thing, though, was that you could go to Apple&#8217;s website and immediately see if your computer was officially supported for OS X or not.  No tap dance between OS vendor and hardware vendor.</p>
<p>OS 9 to OS X was a pretty sizable technical jump &#8211; the entire basic infrastructure was completely replaced.</p>
<p>Ah, good memories &#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: James Bathgate</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bathgate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kosmo: It&#039;s really a mixture of two things. The first of which is what you mentioned with the lack of software. People were allowed to upgrade from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X, but a lot of their software just stopped working. 

The other is the fact that a majority of the machines running Mac OS 9 had to be upgraded to run Mac OS X (sounds like Vista). That&#039;s no easy task with Apple computers and generally means tossing out the old machine and buying a new one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kosmo: It&#8217;s really a mixture of two things. The first of which is what you mentioned with the lack of software. People were allowed to upgrade from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X, but a lot of their software just stopped working. </p>
<p>The other is the fact that a majority of the machines running Mac OS 9 had to be upgraded to run Mac OS X (sounds like Vista). That&#8217;s no easy task with Apple computers and generally means tossing out the old machine and buying a new one.<br />
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		<title>By: kosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.thesoapboxers.com/windows-7-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>kosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James

What sort of problems did you run into when upgrading from OS 9 to OS X?  A clean install was definitely not required - I&#039;m am certain I didn&#039;t do one.

If you&#039;re referring to the lack of applications that ran natively in OS X, you have a point.  The implementation of the classic environment could have been a bit better.  However, worst case scenario, you could simply reboot into OS9.

I loved the OS9 and earlier method of fixing OS problems.  Keep a good backup stashed on the HD.  When problems popped up, boot from CD and activate the &quot;good&quot; system folder (and incrementally add back the changes until you figured out what broke it.  

I have a Mini and an eMac (main blogging computer, built in 2002) at home, but have to use Windows at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James</p>
<p>What sort of problems did you run into when upgrading from OS 9 to OS X?  A clean install was definitely not required &#8211; I&#8217;m am certain I didn&#8217;t do one.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re referring to the lack of applications that ran natively in OS X, you have a point.  The implementation of the classic environment could have been a bit better.  However, worst case scenario, you could simply reboot into OS9.</p>
<p>I loved the OS9 and earlier method of fixing OS problems.  Keep a good backup stashed on the HD.  When problems popped up, boot from CD and activate the &#8220;good&#8221; system folder (and incrementally add back the changes until you figured out what broke it.  </p>
<p>I have a Mini and an eMac (main blogging computer, built in 2002) at home, but have to use Windows at work.<br />
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		<title>By: James Bathgate</title>
		<link>http://www.thesoapboxers.com/windows-7-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bathgate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Evan: Software is definitely going to be an issue. I know a lot of people who use the CD burning or video editing software that came with their machine. If they do a clean install they&#039;ll wipe out that software and the licensing on software that comes with machines usually doesn&#039;t allow for upgrading to a new operating system.

@Peter: I&#039;m waiting for my new MacBook Pro from work and I can&#039;t wait. However, the upgrade process from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X was not very nice either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evan: Software is definitely going to be an issue. I know a lot of people who use the CD burning or video editing software that came with their machine. If they do a clean install they&#8217;ll wipe out that software and the licensing on software that comes with machines usually doesn&#8217;t allow for upgrading to a new operating system.</p>
<p>@Peter: I&#8217;m waiting for my new MacBook Pro from work and I can&#8217;t wait. However, the upgrade process from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X was not very nice either.<br />
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		<title>By: Peter Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.

I use a Mac, have converted my wife to Macs, have converted my niece and my parents to Mac.

While I am not one to bash Microsoft as I use all Windows products at work and like them this is a big problem.

I think many, many people will wipe out their data without even knowing it and many are just not tech savvy enough or don&#039;t have the equipement to do full backups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.</p>
<p>I use a Mac, have converted my wife to Macs, have converted my niece and my parents to Mac.</p>
<p>While I am not one to bash Microsoft as I use all Windows products at work and like them this is a big problem.</p>
<p>I think many, many people will wipe out their data without even knowing it and many are just not tech savvy enough or don&#8217;t have the equipement to do full backups.<br />
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be doing a clean install, so never even gave this much thought, but I think you&#039;re right- this will cause a world of hurt for many people.  The biggest problem will be for people with programs that are preinstalled, which they will completely lose during the upgrade.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be doing a clean install, so never even gave this much thought, but I think you&#8217;re right- this will cause a world of hurt for many people.  The biggest problem will be for people with programs that are preinstalled, which they will completely lose during the upgrade.<br />
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